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	<title>Comments on: Internet Issues and Ownership/Authorship</title>
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		<title>By: karenrayne</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5609</link>
		<dc:creator>karenrayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, the issue of ownership is similar to authorship - in most of history, if you author something, you own it unless you explicitly give it to someone else.  On the Internet, that's just not the case.  Wikipedia is a great example - you don't own what you write there because of the terms.  However, for this blog for example, I overtly claim ownership (see the copywright at the bottom of the page?) because it is so easy to inappropriately use someone else's writing when it's online and I don't want that to happen to the posts I author here.  Well, I don't want it to happen again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, the issue of ownership is similar to authorship - in most of history, if you author something, you own it unless you explicitly give it to someone else.  On the Internet, that&#8217;s just not the case.  Wikipedia is a great example - you don&#8217;t own what you write there because of the terms.  However, for this blog for example, I overtly claim ownership (see the copywright at the bottom of the page?) because it is so easy to inappropriately use someone else&#8217;s writing when it&#8217;s online and I don&#8217;t want that to happen to the posts I author here.  Well, I don&#8217;t want it to happen again!</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5608</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 12:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are the issues of ownership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are the issues of ownership?</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Issues and Credibility &#124; Adolescent Sexuality by Dr. Karen Rayne</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5540</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Issues and Credibility &#124; Adolescent Sexuality by Dr. Karen Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] started with an introduction, and I have so far delved into the topics of identity, privacy, and ownership/authorship.  I am boiling down the report to a quicker read for those who don&#8217;t want to read the whole [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] started with an introduction, and I have so far delved into the topics of identity, privacy, and ownership/authorship.  I am boiling down the report to a quicker read for those who don&#8217;t want to read the whole [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if he wrote it himself, he needs to cite it. And since Wikipedia isn't supposed to be for original research anyway, he needs to cite where he got the information.

These are big issues in library studies, too, by the way. If a library owns a book, it has the responsibility to keep that book from being copied in a way that violates copyright, AND it has the responsibility to preserve it so that the information will be accessible in the future. If the library only owns a share of a resource for a specified time period, then who is going to preserve it? The ground is shifting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if he wrote it himself, he needs to cite it. And since Wikipedia isn&#8217;t supposed to be for original research anyway, he needs to cite where he got the information.</p>
<p>These are big issues in library studies, too, by the way. If a library owns a book, it has the responsibility to keep that book from being copied in a way that violates copyright, AND it has the responsibility to preserve it so that the information will be accessible in the future. If the library only owns a share of a resource for a specified time period, then who is going to preserve it? The ground is shifting.</p>
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		<title>By: Win</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator>Win</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks for this series.  It's been very enlightening, and well worth more attention.

But I'm afraid Daniel's position in this case is very weak, even if he is correct.  The problem with "crowd-sourced" sites like Wikipedia is that attribution is difficult, if not impossible to prove.  Daniel can go back an demonstrate that a specific user posted specific text/changes at a specific time.  But how does he prove that he is that user?  As a student, the onus is on Daniel to prove that he did in fact originate the text over which he claims authorship.  The teacher is right to be skeptical, otherwise every student that comes down the pike is going to plagiarize off the Web and claim original authorship. 

Daniel may be able to prove his point.  If so, he should have armed himself with that evidence beforehand.  The teacher is under no obligation to accept his word.  Far from it, in fact!  The responsibility lies with Daniel to prove his claim, and he should marshal that evidence BEFORE handing in the assignment, not cobble it together after the teacher finds the matching text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for this series.  It&#8217;s been very enlightening, and well worth more attention.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m afraid Daniel&#8217;s position in this case is very weak, even if he is correct.  The problem with &#8220;crowd-sourced&#8221; sites like Wikipedia is that attribution is difficult, if not impossible to prove.  Daniel can go back an demonstrate that a specific user posted specific text/changes at a specific time.  But how does he prove that he is that user?  As a student, the onus is on Daniel to prove that he did in fact originate the text over which he claims authorship.  The teacher is right to be skeptical, otherwise every student that comes down the pike is going to plagiarize off the Web and claim original authorship. </p>
<p>Daniel may be able to prove his point.  If so, he should have armed himself with that evidence beforehand.  The teacher is under no obligation to accept his word.  Far from it, in fact!  The responsibility lies with Daniel to prove his claim, and he should marshal that evidence BEFORE handing in the assignment, not cobble it together after the teacher finds the matching text.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://karenrayne.com/2010/04/22/internet-issues-and-ownershipauthorship/comment-page-1/#comment-5531</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 03:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Part of me wonders if he really believed that, or if he was saying something likely to get him out of trouble.  It's especially interesting hte modern remix culture, where there's widespread use of copyrighted materials-- sometimes in a way that's fair use, and sometimes in a way that is blatantly not.  Yet even if it IS legal, and it is creative, it may still have a smack of plagiarism to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Part of me wonders if he really believed that, or if he was saying something likely to get him out of trouble.  It&#8217;s especially interesting hte modern remix culture, where there&#8217;s widespread use of copyrighted materials&#8211; sometimes in a way that&#8217;s fair use, and sometimes in a way that is blatantly not.  Yet even if it IS legal, and it is creative, it may still have a smack of plagiarism to it.</p>
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