Comments on: Time on Ladyboys in Thailand http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/ Fri, 18 May 2012 00:20:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Kate McCauley http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-3265 Kate McCauley Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:19:47 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/#comment-3265 Karen I hope to catch up with you soon. My blog is about teenaged alcohol and drug use. I'd love to develop a dialogue some day. In the meantime, a quick anecdote. There is a restaurant in West Philly that has its restrooms assigned to Democrats and Republicans. I find this remarkable, since I am from DC and I've never seen it here. Too conservative a town for that. I enjoy your blog. Kate McCauley, MEd, LCSW Karen

I hope to catch up with you soon. My blog is about teenaged alcohol and drug use. I’d love to develop a dialogue some day.

In the meantime, a quick anecdote. There is a restaurant in West Philly that has its restrooms assigned to Democrats and Republicans. I find this remarkable, since I am from DC and I’ve never seen it here. Too conservative a town for that.

I enjoy your blog.

Kate McCauley, MEd, LCSW

]]> By: Alice http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-3260 Alice Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:27:16 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/#comment-3260 Yes, Karen, I agree with you that it's great that Time magazine is speaking about this issue. It just brought up a bunch of thoughts and memories about how confused about gender issues I was when I was 17 (and had to read Time from cover to cover every week for a class I was taking). Yes, Karen, I agree with you that it’s great that Time magazine is speaking about this issue. It just brought up a bunch of thoughts and memories about how confused about gender issues I was when I was 17 (and had to read Time from cover to cover every week for a class I was taking).

]]> By: karenrayne http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-3259 karenrayne Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:55:41 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/#comment-3259 I completely agree with you, Alice, that it's a big problem that the article doesn't address in any way transgendered people who start out female. Nevertheless, I think the fact that Time magazine, which is not known as a bastion of liberalness, can speak openly and effectively about male-to-female transgender and effectively chastise the US for lack of tolerance of transgender is astounding. Which is not to say, in any way, that there is not still work to be done. In fact, even Time magazine admits there is much work to be done in this arena in the US. Hopefully they'll continue to look at themselves as well, and open their eyes to the other ways of being transgender. I completely agree with you, Alice, that it’s a big problem that the article doesn’t address in any way transgendered people who start out female. Nevertheless, I think the fact that Time magazine, which is not known as a bastion of liberalness, can speak openly and effectively about male-to-female transgender and effectively chastise the US for lack of tolerance of transgender is astounding. Which is not to say, in any way, that there is not still work to be done. In fact, even Time magazine admits there is much work to be done in this arena in the US. Hopefully they’ll continue to look at themselves as well, and open their eyes to the other ways of being transgender.

]]> By: Alice http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/comment-page-1/#comment-3258 Alice Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:58:28 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/2008/07/08/time-on-ladyboys-in-thailand/#comment-3258 "Now, Thailand’s Education Ministry is considering whether to introduce similar bathrooms and dormitories on the university level, even though many colleges require “ladyboys” to wear male clothing on campus. (For the most part, kathoey students can, however, choose feminine hairstyles and wear jewelry, nail polish and makeup.)" This is the kind of thing that would have confused the bejeezus out of me when I was 17, EVEN THOUGH THE ARTICLE MAKES NO RECOGNITION OF TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE WHO STARTED OUT FEMALE. I identify as a woman, and I am sexually attracted to men. But I prefer to wear men's clothing and I'm repulsed by makeup, nail polish, jewelry, and any hairstyle that requires more than washing and combing. When I was 17 I only knew about gay and straight, not about transgendered, but if I had known, it would have confused me further. I didn't feel like I could identify as a heterosexual woman and not like any of the things that "women" are supposed to like (on top of being intellectual and all of that). “Now, Thailand’s Education Ministry is considering whether to introduce similar bathrooms and dormitories on the university level, even though many colleges require “ladyboys” to wear male clothing on campus. (For the most part, kathoey students can, however, choose feminine hairstyles and wear jewelry, nail polish and makeup.)”

This is the kind of thing that would have confused the bejeezus out of me when I was 17, EVEN THOUGH THE ARTICLE MAKES NO RECOGNITION OF TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE WHO STARTED OUT FEMALE. I identify as a woman, and I am sexually attracted to men. But I prefer to wear men’s clothing and I’m repulsed by makeup, nail polish, jewelry, and any hairstyle that requires more than washing and combing. When I was 17 I only knew about gay and straight, not about transgendered, but if I had known, it would have confused me further. I didn’t feel like I could identify as a heterosexual woman and not like any of the things that “women” are supposed to like (on top of being intellectual and all of that).

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