Comments on: Adolescent sex offenders Part 3: Legal issues http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/ Thu, 17 May 2012 22:53:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Concerned Citizen http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-4103 Concerned Citizen Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:34:29 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-4103 I'd also like any and all articles on teens and the sex offender registry. My son was 22, chatted with a 15 year old and is now in prison for it. I'm talking consensual chat about sex, not criminal intentions. (I don't disagree guys AND girls shouldn't be punished, but the punishment, because of the Adam Walsh Act puts him on the registry as a Tier II for 25 years and he never met the girl or even attempted it, he (nor us, his parents) ever knew that chat was illegal and treated worse than if he'd have slept with a 15 year old, what's up with that anyway?) Anyway, I'd like the articles mentioned as well. Thank you! (by the way, the girl was also chatting with at least 4 other guys the same way, and never blocked any of them and was usually the one that initiated the conversations) Why aren't parents held responsible for their teens these days as well as the teens held responsible for their actions? Seems we are teaching young women (I will never call a teen a child) that they can get away with anything because they are not at the age of consent. As you know, since you live in Texas, the legislators have gone NUTS with this mess and even now charge young men who KISS girls that are under age 17. If the laws were in effect when I was an "underage teen", I'd have put a lot of young men in prison and on the registry. This has to stop! (When I was 16, I only dated guys in their twenties, they had a job, a car, money to date! Guys my age didn't have any of the above!) I am also appalled that people consider teens to be incapable of making a decision. I told plenty of guys "No" when I needed to as a young teen. How dare the legislators and general public think a 13 year old girl doesn't "get it" and is completely innocent in 100% of the cases. It is ALWAYS the guy that gets the brunt of the laws and it's always the girl that is a "victim". I wish you well in teaching the ignorant parents that teens ARE having sex or texting or chatting about it, it doesn't make these people "victims". Criminal intent no longer has to be proven and just making an accusation now puts the fellas on the registry. ALL men should be worried about these laws because they are all in danger, not just young men, but any man. By the way, I am the parent of my son, now age 25 and still in prison and a daughter, age 21. I have also been a teen in the past and made wise decisions because I felt good about myself but by golly I kissed a lot of young men in my teens and I don't feel bad about it but the dudes would now be on the registry for it these days! Wow! It's amazing parents no longer CAN or DO control what happens with their teens but automatically assume the boy is the guilty party and the girl is the victim. (I'm talking non-violent, consensual cases where the parents just get angry and turn the boys in) How to deal with it? I'd definitely be teaching my kids not to EVER chat online until they were of age and certainly have blocks on my computer and keep the computer in the same room as the rest of the family gathers in plain view. I'd also realize that teens DO HAVE SEX and not to just blame the young man. I'd talk to the young man and my daughter and never turn them in to the police. That is ridiculous for consensual matters. I’d also like any and all articles on teens and the sex offender registry. My son was 22, chatted with a 15 year old and is now in prison for it. I’m talking consensual chat about sex, not criminal intentions. (I don’t disagree guys AND girls shouldn’t be punished, but the punishment, because of the Adam Walsh Act puts him on the registry as a Tier II for 25 years and he never met the girl or even attempted it, he (nor us, his parents) ever knew that chat was illegal and treated worse than if he’d have slept with a 15 year old, what’s up with that anyway?) Anyway, I’d like the articles mentioned as well. Thank you! (by the way, the girl was also chatting with at least 4 other guys the same way, and never blocked any of them and was usually the one that initiated the conversations) Why aren’t parents held responsible for their teens these days as well as the teens held responsible for their actions? Seems we are teaching young women (I will never call a teen a child) that they can get away with anything because they are not at the age of consent. As you know, since you live in Texas, the legislators have gone NUTS with this mess and even now charge young men who KISS girls that are under age 17. If the laws were in effect when I was an “underage teen”, I’d have put a lot of young men in prison and on the registry. This has to stop! (When I was 16, I only dated guys in their twenties, they had a job, a car, money to date! Guys my age didn’t have any of the above!)

I am also appalled that people consider teens to be incapable of making a decision. I told plenty of guys “No” when I needed to as a young teen. How dare the legislators and general public think a 13 year old girl doesn’t “get it” and is completely innocent in 100% of the cases. It is ALWAYS the guy that gets the brunt of the laws and it’s always the girl that is a “victim”. I wish you well in teaching the ignorant parents that teens ARE having sex or texting or chatting about it, it doesn’t make these people “victims”. Criminal intent no longer has to be proven and just making an accusation now puts the fellas on the registry. ALL men should be worried about these laws because they are all in danger, not just young men, but any man.

By the way, I am the parent of my son, now age 25 and still in prison and a daughter, age 21. I have also been a teen in the past and made wise decisions because I felt good about myself but by golly I kissed a lot of young men in my teens and I don’t feel bad about it but the dudes would now be on the registry for it these days! Wow! It’s amazing parents no longer CAN or DO control what happens with their teens but automatically assume the boy is the guilty party and the girl is the victim. (I’m talking non-violent, consensual cases where the parents just get angry and turn the boys in)

How to deal with it? I’d definitely be teaching my kids not to EVER chat online until they were of age and certainly have blocks on my computer and keep the computer in the same room as the rest of the family gathers in plain view. I’d also realize that teens DO HAVE SEX and not to just blame the young man. I’d talk to the young man and my daughter and never turn them in to the police. That is ridiculous for consensual matters.

]]> By: Karen Rayne, Ph.D. http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-263 Karen Rayne, Ph.D. Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:46:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-263 Yes, I would love to read them, thanks! Yes, I would love to read them, thanks!

]]> By: C4bl3Fl4m3 http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-248 C4bl3Fl4m3 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:09:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-248 Yes, it is. Susie Bright and Greta Christina wrote excellent articles on exactly this topic a little while back. If you'd like, I can find the links for you. Yes, it is. Susie Bright and Greta Christina wrote excellent articles on exactly this topic a little while back. If you’d like, I can find the links for you.

]]> By: Karen Rayne, Ph.D. http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-245 Karen Rayne, Ph.D. Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:09:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-245 This, of course, is not something we will ever know, C4bl3Fl4m3. But the sexual hysteria in America is really quite high these days, isn't it? This, of course, is not something we will ever know, C4bl3Fl4m3. But the sexual hysteria in America is really quite high these days, isn’t it?

]]> By: C4bl3Fl4m3 http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-243 C4bl3Fl4m3 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:01:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-243 I think sex offender issues are also blown out of proportion. One can become a sex offender for taking a drunken piss in the alley behind the bar for "public exposure", or for getting caught skinny dipping with friends. This person who would most likely never molest anyone, is being thrown up there with rapists and the like. How many sex offenders on the lists are actual "sex offenders" and how many were caught with their pants down (or off) at the wrong place at the wrong time? I think sex offender issues are also blown out of proportion. One can become a sex offender for taking a drunken piss in the alley behind the bar for “public exposure”, or for getting caught skinny dipping with friends. This person who would most likely never molest anyone, is being thrown up there with rapists and the like. How many sex offenders on the lists are actual “sex offenders” and how many were caught with their pants down (or off) at the wrong place at the wrong time?

]]> By: ZMan! http://karenrayne.com/2007/08/10/adolescent-sex-offenders-part-3-legal-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-179 ZMan! Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:15:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=121#comment-179 Check this out, you'll be shocked:<br/><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/young-lives-destroyed.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/young-lives-destroyed.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/04/war-on-toddlerism.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/04/war-on-toddlerism.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/8-year-old-charged-for-sexual-conduct.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/8-year-old-charged-for-sexual-conduct.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/young-boy-faces-rape-allegation.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/young-boy-faces-rape-allegation.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/evil-in-usa.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/03/evil-in-usa.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/sexually-aggressive-children.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/sexually-aggressive-children.html</a><br/><a HREF="http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/underage-sex-authorities-grapple-with.html" REL="nofollow">http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/02/underage-sex-authorities-grapple-with.html</a> Check this out, you’ll be shocked:

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