Comments on: Continuing the discussion on the sexualization of girls (and their mothers)… http://karenrayne.com/2007/03/17/continuing-the-discussion-on-the-sexualization-of-girls-and-their-mothers/ Thu, 17 May 2012 22:19:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Karen Rayne http://karenrayne.com/2007/03/17/continuing-the-discussion-on-the-sexualization-of-girls-and-their-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Karen Rayne Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:57:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=9#comment-16 It is one thing to address women, to say that our pride and our beauty comes from within, to build up a healthy sense of self and sexuality. This place of building up and supporting is the space I have always found Warner to be writing from.<br/><br/>In this piece, however, I found her writing to be shaming of mothers, telling them that they're doing wrong rather than pointing towards the light. The mothers who do and say the things Warner suggests are falling prey to the same forces that they are trying to keep their daughters from, and much of that force draws on women's shame over their bodies. Simply adding more shame from the other direction isn't the way to positively impact the situation. It is one thing to address women, to say that our pride and our beauty comes from within, to build up a healthy sense of self and sexuality. This place of building up and supporting is the space I have always found Warner to be writing from.

In this piece, however, I found her writing to be shaming of mothers, telling them that they’re doing wrong rather than pointing towards the light. The mothers who do and say the things Warner suggests are falling prey to the same forces that they are trying to keep their daughters from, and much of that force draws on women’s shame over their bodies. Simply adding more shame from the other direction isn’t the way to positively impact the situation.

]]> By: Dorian http://karenrayne.com/2007/03/17/continuing-the-discussion-on-the-sexualization-of-girls-and-their-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Dorian Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:30:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=9#comment-14 But how can a mother learn to "improve" her own body image if she isn't aware that what she currently has is inappropriate? And how can she learn that if noone tells her? I found the quotes you gave here to be in the nature of trying to wake women up to their own behavior, so that they can begin to address it and I am all for that. But how can a mother learn to “improve” her own body image if she isn’t aware that what she currently has is inappropriate? And how can she learn that if noone tells her? I found the quotes you gave here to be in the nature of trying to wake women up to their own behavior, so that they can begin to address it and I am all for that.

]]> By: yourchildaszenmaster http://karenrayne.com/2007/03/17/continuing-the-discussion-on-the-sexualization-of-girls-and-their-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-12 yourchildaszenmaster Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:36:00 +0000 http://karenrayne.com/?p=9#comment-12 Hi Karen,<br/><br/>Last fall, while visiting my daughter in Philadelphia, I watched the Dove soap video that's out. Have you seen it? <br/><br/>Dove has a campaign to build self-esteem in women and an intention to show women, as they are. <br/><br/>In the video, they show how a company changes and adjusts the features of one model. The comuterized touch ups cause the model to look "perfect" instead of as she is....a human being. <br/><br/>Pretty amazing to see what women have to "face" in this culture. And this one example doesn't include body image.<br/><br/>Thanks!<br/>Jan Hi Karen,

Last fall, while visiting my daughter in Philadelphia, I watched the Dove soap video that’s out. Have you seen it?

Dove has a campaign to build self-esteem in women and an intention to show women, as they are.

In the video, they show how a company changes and adjusts the features of one model. The comuterized touch ups cause the model to look “perfect” instead of as she is….a human being.

Pretty amazing to see what women have to “face” in this culture. And this one example doesn’t include body image.

Thanks!
Jan

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